Curse

deluxe · Jan 06, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

The point isn't that the stuff is beatable. It's that its boring as shit to play against every time.

So what do you want really? Do you think nerfing the current scrub builds is the best idea? There will be new builds that don't need much input, and all bad players will play that. You will always keep bad players that need a brainless build like iway or thumper necro/ritshit.
Believe me, no matter what gets nerfed, you will always be fighting the same shit most of the time

Tyla · Jan 06, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

Joke.

Infact, double fame weekends in themselves are a joke to me.
Only encourage more lamers to use lame builds.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 06, 2008, 09:36 AM // 09:36

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Originally Posted by stuntharley

You clearly dont HA much. Considering a teleportation spike which is even half decent cannont be "pre-protted"

I suggest you, get rank or go back to pve.

You might not be able to preprot it, but you can definitely disrupt some of it, making it infuseable.

stuntharley · Jan 06, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

You can interupt some of it yes, but its not really even worth bringing a mesmer into HA anymore because of all of the song of conc's. If you are going to bring a mesmer its usually hexeater, so they have maybe 2 interupts. Which is 1 skill roughly every 12-15seconds.

elektra_lucia · Jan 06, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

You can pre-prot it. Play every profession and most builds. Then put yourself in the eye of the caller. You can imagine where they are going to spike.

Also, if he ports, there's going to be a delay of the attack.

So long as you spread out, it's not that hard then you just quickly move mouse to where the guy has ported. NOT on the red bar, but on the player itself. There is always a clue to it.

Most of it isn't people porting though...

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You can interupt some of it yes, but its not really even worth bringing a mesmer into HA anymore because of all of the song of conc's. If you are going to bring a mesmer its usually hexeater, so they have maybe 2 interupts. Which is 1 skill roughly every 12-15seconds.

Sure it's not worth bringing a crap mesmer and ONLY a crap mesmer could not interrupt song. Lol.

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If you are going to bring a mesmer its usually hexeater, so they have maybe 2 interupts

I hate to say this but WTF?

ACreator · Jan 06, 2008, 12:17 PM // 12:17

havent seen a mesmer hexeater in HA in a looong time xD

only PD and PB, but I dont play xD I only whatch 2h a day xD

Dronte · Jan 06, 2008, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by stuntharley

The tele derv spike needs a nerf. IMO, 4 healers in 1 build? nice joke

4 healers.. So what? Lol. IV has 6 healers in the build, and still beatable :/.

luminoth · Jan 06, 2008, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

DA, WoW and Aegis are the cancer killing GW. Sick of matches being "who has more defense".

You either fail at interrupting or you don't even try and sit there whining all day long. DA just asks for an interrupt and Aegis is easy to spot.

Dronte · Jan 06, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

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Originally Posted by I Angra I

What the hell is droksway?

Spiritway with 2 rao 3 ele instead of 3 rao 2 trapper.

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

Nerf that zergway garbage, nerf every gimmick build based around physicals and make block skills only block 33% or 25%, DA, WoW and Aegis are the cancer killing GW. Sick of matches being "who has more defense".

Kinda funny. You are asking for zergway nerf, although DA, WoW and Aegis are the biggest problem for zergway.. Maybe stop runnin zergway, those blocks wont stop casters.

ZenRgy · Jan 06, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Dronte

Kinda funny. You are asking for zergway nerf, although DA, WoW and Aegis are the biggest problem for zergway.. Maybe stop runnin zergway, those blocks wont stop casters.

o ok nice zergway remark.

They're the biggest problems for regular balance teams that have 1 or 2 frontline chars.

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Originally Posted by luminoth

You either fail at interrupting or you don't even try and sit there whining all day long. DA just asks for an interrupt and Aegis is easy to spot.

We do interrupt them, but there are times when some go through because believe it or not, mesmers have other things to do. Passive defense is ridiculous. I've beaten teams with these builds, Ward harm, blurred, Aegis, guardian, DA etc.

One of my major problems with it is the fact it just stretches out matches for so long. I don't feel like reliving dual para 6v6 meta.

Avarre · Jan 06, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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One of my major problems with it is the fact it just stretches out matches for so long. I don't feel like reliving dual para 6v6 meta.

I had a balanced match earlier that took 35 minutes because both teams had Aegis, Blinding Surge, Wards, multiple hard res, and plenty of other fun things. Nothing there really needed a balancing, but it was still boring.

Legally · Jan 06, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05

How anet keeps ruining guild wars makes me sick.

BlackSephir · Jan 06, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

You guys hafta realize that AN has more important things to work on.

Like wintersday hats. Or mini-pandas.

Lykan · Jan 06, 2008, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Double fail weekend imo.

The Real Roy Keane · Jan 06, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Legally

How anet keeps ruining guild wars makes me sick.

A valid contribution to the thread.
Fail.

wuzzman · Jan 06, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

lol. How many times does anet need to nerf the game so that shitty balance teams can make it past UW?

Nero_Fayth · Jan 06, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

I'm sick of people QQ'ing because their narrow minded POS builds get rolled.

If you lose to iway and halls meta, it's your own fault. Stop running the same build and stop complaining when that same build loses.

Moreover, it's not builds that win halls. You still see the same balances, destroyer greg, warr mika, etc holding. They make it past all the scrubtrash in UW.

I wonder how. ZzzZZZZZzzzZZZZZzZZZZzz

Another thing that gets on my nerves, people with wolves and bambis talking shit like they've been holding since release. 1000 fame doesn't mean you're exp in HA, sorry.

Skill balance has been off for ages, halls changes mechanics on an almost regular basis. Quit focusing on builds that "need to be nerfed" and find yourself a better circle of players to run with.

Everyone has a tiger or a phoenix now, quit complaining and grind the fame to get yours. Ever thought that all the time you spend ranting on these forums could be spent actually EARNING fame? Do you seriously think that a nerf will make it easier for you to get that r9? Don't you think that if anet changes something, players in general will find a new meta?

Please use common sense before posting. Complaining about imba/OP builds on guru isn't going to get you fame.

There's a reason alot of players quit HA/GW in general. If you want fame, remember that actions speak louder than words unless you're r12.

Iwayed or not, people with more fame are usually the ones that worked for it. They invest more time in the game and end up with more to show as a result.

Rant Fin~

shoogi · Jan 06, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

That double fame thing shows that the problem is not lack of people. now with 10 id's like in the good times, it's still pretty damn hard to find a non-xxxway team for people that aren't ranked 10 or above. All that degenerate noobfest needs to be nerfed asap, and before someone says "hey it's not overpowered capable team pwnz it", I say I don't care. Everybody is running the same crap, and that crap doesn't encourage anyone to learn how to play guildwars. It's not fun.

Dronte · Jan 06, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by shoogi

That double fame thing shows that the problem is not lack of people. now with 10 id's like in the good times, it's still pretty damn hard to find a non-xxxway team for people that aren't ranked 10 or above. All that degenerate noobfest needs to be nerfed asap, and before someone says "hey it's not overpowered capable team pwnz it", I say I don't care. Everybody is running the same crap, and that crap doesn't encourage anyone to learn how to play guildwars. It's not fun.

Nice balanced teams are starting at r6.
Yea, everybody's running the same crap, but in case Anet nerfs those craps like iway, someone will find out like 5 new teambuilds, and here we go again, everyone running the same build again. HA wont be perfectly balanced, ever. Get over it.

moko · Jan 06, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth

I'm sick of people QQ'ing because their narrow minded POS builds get rolled.

If you lose to iway and halls meta, it's your own fault. Stop running the same build and stop complaining when that same build loses.

Moreover, it's not builds that win halls. You still see the same balances, destroyer greg, warr mika, etc holding. They make it past all the scrubtrash in UW.

I wonder how. ZzzZZZZZzzzZZZZZzZZZZzz

Another thing that gets on my nerves, people with wolves and bambis talking shit like they've been holding since release. 1000 fame doesn't mean you're exp in HA, sorry.

Skill balance has been off for ages, halls changes mechanics on an almost regular basis. Quit focusing on builds that "need to be nerfed" and find yourself a better circle of players to run with.

Everyone has a tiger or a phoenix now, quit complaining and grind the fame to get yours. Ever thought that all the time you spend ranting on these forums could be spent actually EARNING fame? Do you seriously think that a nerf will make it easier for you to get that r9? Don't you think that if anet changes something, players in general will find a new meta?

Please use common sense before posting. Complaining about imba/OP builds on guru isn't going to get you fame.

There's a reason alot of players quit HA/GW in general. If you want fame, remember that actions speak louder than words unless you're r12.

Iwayed or not, people with more fame are usually the ones that worked for it. They invest more time in the game and end up with more to show as a result.

Rant Fin~

i'm closing here, nothing but crying and ranting is coming out of this topic. apparently, all of you prefer rant when it comes to HA instead of actually trying to help the situation? (read: various skill balance topics that have been created, wether they helped or not, but at least the balances "read" them)

so, bye, QQ less my dear HA community. you've had enough opportunities to cry by now.